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Re: Lost Planet Extreme Conditions
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2008, 01:44:05 PM »

Well buddy, say the truth!! PC is not for gaming in any aspect!! further again Portable one is not really for that things, it's just for chatting and word purposes !!

But let me inform you one thing : you want feel the real pleasure of gamin on PC if you plan to play Lost Planet.....blieve me, try it on 360 you wont regret it Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2008, 10:26:03 PM »

Wow... the PC is still the ultimate game platform. Sorry. It is customizable, so you can keep up with changing technology, and is much more useful than a console. Plus, my PC not only has better framrates and picture than the 360 (and PS3 in cross console games), but also has much better HD out, and LCD monitors are better than most HD TVs, so basically what I think Nerio is trying to get across is that if you have a crappy PC/MAC (with the ability to play real games photoshop is not a game) then ya, a 360 is better, but other than that, if you want to go along with the console fad, then be my guest. But PC is still the ultimate gaming platform.

Sorry to get so defensive Nerio, but I strongly disagree with your opinion. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2008, 12:43:48 AM »

(I hope Lost Planet will run... I hope Lost Planet will run... I hope Lost Planet will run...)

It'll run... It'll run... It'll run...
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Re: Lost Planet Extreme Conditions
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2008, 12:35:47 PM »

Well haxer : to my own experience you have given the answer of what we desgree with each other :
1- Crappy PC, is not for gamin, even if boosted with heavy techs
2- even New PC's wich supposed to be games oriented are not really for that, simply because some games are made for Consols, take a look :

Can you play God of War in PC? ....No, agree, it's the same opinion of the developpers wich made it only on PS2 !!!

 in a way, PC's are great for games like strategic ones : take for exemple c&c générals or reflexive ones as Crosswords!

 for you PC haxer, note one thing : as speedy as things are going on, you heavy techy peripherals will be out of date in about 3 or 4 months. can you say the same about PS3 or XBOX???
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2008, 01:23:38 PM »

Ya, I can. 360s and PS3s are what hold back game development. Every game that comes out solely for PC has much better and more advanced graphics, physics, and sometimes even better gameplay. Like Unreal 3 is hands down better on PC than PS3. They had to slow the gameplay down on PS3 because PS3 users couldn't handle it. If you took a PC user and set them up against a PS3 user in UT3 there would be absolutely no hope for the PS3 user. Which is why UT3 is not a cross console game. Ya, some games are developed first for consoles, but the only reason that they end up sucking on PS is because the developers are lazy and don't spend enough time to ensure a quality crossover. This is true of only a few games that I have played however, and i can list them here: Halo Combat Evolved (multiplayer only), Gears Of War, and Star Wars Battle Front 2(which had no support for dual core processors a year after that is what everyone was using). As for the PC being for RTS (real time strategy) games only, that is about as far from accurate as you can get. Almost all of the great FPS titles from over the years originated on PC. Let's name a few. Wolfenstine, Duke Nukem 3D, the Call Of Duty series(and btw, COD 4 plays better on my PC than on the 360), Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2 episode 1 & 2, Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike:Source, Bio Shock, and more. There are more good FPS games like the Sin Episodes that I could go into, but I will refrain because of the length of the list. Then we have the MMOs and the RPGs that were originally made for PC like WOW, and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. As far as my hardware being outdated, it will only be outdated because of the better PC games out there. The 360 and PS3 will not be considered outdated because they will still have low end games being developed for them, just like how the PS2 still has some games developed for it. Really the PC is the ultimate platform. And I have given many reasons why. You can still make an uninformed decision that PCs are not for gaming if you want, but that is plain ignorance.
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Re: Lost Planet Extreme Conditions
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2008, 10:49:53 AM »

Well haxer : to my own experience you have given the answer of what we desgree with each other :
1- Crappy PC, is not for gamin, even if boosted with heavy techs
2- even New PC's wich supposed to be games oriented are not really for that, simply because some games are made for Consols, take a look :

Can you play God of War in PC? ....No, agree, it's the same opinion of the developpers wich made it only on PS2 !!!

 in a way, PC's are great for games like strategic ones : take for exemple c&c générals or reflexive ones as Crosswords!

 for you PC haxer, note one thing : as speedy as things are going on, you heavy techy peripherals will be out of date in about 3 or 4 months. can you say the same about PS3 or XBOX???

Smiley I'm gonna have to side with Haxer on this one - In comparison, a dedicated gaming console has pretty inferior specs on its graphics cards and central processor, and is usually less than 1/4 the RAM on either.  PC's, although they can be finicky when it comes to setup, still have the greatest opportunity for high-end experience.  There isn't a gaming console I know of that can do SLI - 2 or more graphics cards.  A gaming console might push HDMI standards, but a gaming PC could power the same game on wrap-around 1600x1200 monitors (3 or more - I've seen one person run an astounding 12!!!).

Consoles are the way to go for no-fuss gaming, generally, but a PC platform can offer 10-1000 times the amount of pixels and vertexes being pushed around the screen.  Another trade-off is cost, of course.  Getting a dedicated console can be 1/5-1/10 the cost of a gaming computer.

...but, you CAN modify a gaming PC without voiding warranties! Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2008, 11:17:03 AM »

...but, you CAN modify a gaming PC without voiding warranties! Cheesy

Unless of course you rebuild it from the ground up like I did Smiley Best buy wouldn't let me remove old parts (like when my hard drive died) and take it in separate. I had to have all the original components from my gateway installed in it... and I had already sold most of that stuff. lol
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Re: Lost Planet Extreme Conditions
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2008, 12:23:30 PM »

things are going squizzy.....you admit that consols have larger choices then PC's, in the same time you still saying that PC's are the ultimate platforms....well i desgree totally with you.

Until a good Evidence, i'll keep my mind on it.....NA Grin
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2008, 01:12:15 PM »

never said consoles have larger choices, and even if they do, that doesn't mean they are better for gaming, it just means that cheap low end games are developed for them more quickly that have no imagination and are basically a cheap rip off of other games that have come before them. Not all exclusive games, but most. Plus, many of these games are exclusive because of corporate interests. They want to keep them exclusive to give people a reason to buy a console. That is simply good business. Think about it, if Halo 3 or Gears of War came out on PC at the same time that it came out on 360 then there would be no reason for people like me to have a 360. All the other games that the 360 has exclusive to it are pretty lame. And Gears isn't even an exclusive title. Another thing is the only reason at this point that any dedicated gamer would choose to purchase the PS3 is for either Resistance Fall of Man, or in anticipation of the new Final Fantasy. If these were released on PC the PS3 market would automatically fail. (Which it is close to doing anyway since there are barely any quality titles for it.) What it really feels like to me is that you are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. All my points make since and are clear, I don't see how you can so readily dismiss what I am saying. If you want evidence, then read what I wrote and then research what I am saying. But I can save you the trouble and tell you that it is all accurate.

And as a side note, if anyone thinks that the Wii is better than PC because of the Wiimote, you can actually use a Wiimote with a PC, so... that kills that argument. Wink
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Re: Lost Planet Extreme Conditions
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2008, 12:31:52 PM »

What it really feels like to me is that you are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. All my points make since and are clear, I don't see how you can so readily dismiss what I am saying. If you want evidence, then read what I wrote and then research what I am saying. But I can save you the trouble and tell you that it is all accurate.

I never thought that you will look to the discussion like that...so..I leave the disscussion on this, and leave the hole gaming section .

My Apologizes
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2008, 02:09:13 PM »

What it really feels like to me is that you are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. All my points make since and are clear, I don't see how you can so readily dismiss what I am saying. If you want evidence, then read what I wrote and then research what I am saying. But I can save you the trouble and tell you that it is all accurate.

I never thought that you will look to the discussion like that...so..I leave the disscussion on this, and leave the hole gaming section .

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...um okay  Undecided

I thought Haxer was doing a pretty good job bringing up the facts, the pros & cons of both sides.  Seemed balanced to me without being adversarial or mean.  Nerio - nobody was trying to be malicious or attacking on the issue Smiley  Sorry if you feel you've been singled out, berated or attacked, but TRUST ME, it was nobodies intention.
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